I made my way up two flights of stairs passing families sprawled out on bamboo mats napping away and lifeless souls in old hospital pajamas that reminded me of the Holocaust wandered about like zombies in the humidity. Sometimes a breeze would blow by and rescue me from the heat exhaustion as I waited about among the hundreds and hundreds of other patrons. This hospital like all other hospitals here was crowded. So over capacity that patients sometimes have to share beds with strangers. I never noticed any hospital room with anything less than six patients all lying about on beds together. Cheap looking bottles recycled as IV drips and family members around the patient's bedside surrounded by other complete strangers. Nurses don't have the responsibility of care givers here. There's no such thing as a kinky nurse fetish here when the atmosphere emphasized death instead of sex. There was nothing sexy here. Nurses were angry and bitter. It's a stressful environment, but all the nurses I've encountered were impatient and rude. Family members are the ones who have to bath, feed, and nurture the patients after their surgery. An old wife emptied her husband's urine pouch into a toilet and then swiftly began to brush his mouth with her fingers. No wonder half of his teeth were missing- how can you ever clean your teeth with a finger and urine...
When I came in my grandfather looked like a sunken corpse but he was still very alert. They sent him into a waiting room and despite donating to the nurses and doctors for a private room or at least something better than a communal room, our family's efforts fell short. The whole system here is seriously dangerous and unprofessional. Patients are forced to walk to the doctor's offices to get checked up- sometimes clear across the compound. Basic machines like heart scanners and MRIs are few and far in between so my grandfather had to go to a different hospital to get some other procedures done a few districts away. Hospitals here specializes in specific body parts, such as the eyes and the intestines.
Eventually after so many hours of waiting around I went home and felt completely disgusted with the sights and sounds that I heard on that day. I was emotionally and physically drained. I sobbed a little and choked several times. Doctors barely make anything here unless they have their own private practice. There's a lack of motivation here. It was really sad. I squirming at the idea of having to be in that room full of patients coughing away - spreading their sickness without concern for others. I'm appreciating America more than ever now. I'm going to be so much more careful because I definitely don't want to end up in a hospital here. Though... that hospital did have free wifi..












Hey Kyle, glad to see your posts about VN again. I love your blog because you show Vietnam as it is for the average person. I'm currently working on getting into a nursing program right now so I was outraged when I saw how health care "professionals" acted at a Vietnamese hospital that my dad took me to the last time I was there. It sucks that your grandfather couldn't get better treatment despite your family's donations. My dad told me that its common courtesy for the patient to bribe the nurses so that they wont be abused.
ReplyDeletei'm also curious about the hospitals in vietnam. do you know why the doctors don't make as much in hospitals compared to private practices? what do nurses do then? pass meds and paperwork? who are those people waiting in the hallways? what are they waiting for? do you know how much vn nurses make? it's depressing looking at these photos. these people deserve a lot more.
ReplyDeleteHospitals are government supported and thus do not receive sufficient funding because the costs of treatment is relatively low because the general masses in Vietnam are poor. Nurses handle paperwork, "organization", management, dealing with family members, pretty much everything else except for caring for the patients.. Lol. Those people in the hallways are family members lounging about and taking turns taking care of their family members. My grandfather's nephew had to stay behind for three days to take care of him. The hospital also became his home. Vietnamese nurses probably don't make more than 200 or so bucks a month. I know new doctors only make like 300 a month or maybe a little more if they specialize in something. In Vietnam, doctors are only rich if they open up their own clinics or work for international companies.
Deletethat sounds more like secretarial work than nursing. what socio-economic classes do docs and nurses belong to in vn?
DeleteDoctors and nurses are respected because they had to endure rigorous studying and training. I'm also pretty sure it takes a lot less time for someone to become a doctor in Vietnam too. Some doctors are very rich. There are no poor doctors. They get by, but they have to work much harder to be rich compared to their western counterparts - solely based on the hours alone. There's lack of performance versus hours standards here in Vietnam. People don't realize that it's not ideal to work more than 10 hours a day. I'm hearing tales of people working 15 hours a day straight without any breaks.
Delete15 hours without breaks is not surprising. it can happen here in the states also. it's healthcare. a lot of demands with little help to accomplish them.
DeleteMy mom was once a nurse in Vietnam. That was before we immigrated to the US to start a better life. After reading this post I wonder if she had to endure the same working conditions. Thanks for the informative post.
ReplyDeleteVery sad...I hope all is well with your grandpa. From a photographer's perspective, your photos in this entry are great journalism. On a different note...so I think right now I'm going through what you went through with the VN girlfriend ignoring me because of her studies lol :P
ReplyDeletedespite it all, i think that if you dont have anything serious, it is an okay system. i mean nothing like america or europe's but maintenance stuff. i kept having nosebleed when i was in vn, and came in and out the hospital w/o an appointment, we just went, waited like 30 minutes, and doc just prescribed me some vit. c tablets. i was shocked how simple it was. i dont know if there was a fee to see the doc but he was impersonal. *shrugged* but mind you, the vietnamese respects doctors to a fault. the only thing i was miffed was the long waiting line to get medicine because they dont have over the counter supplements. this is a great post, now i know what my grandma likely sees when she goes to checkups :( is this hospital in hcm city? or somewhere near bien hoa?
ReplyDeleteCheck ups are a lot simpler. There are many many private clinics that specializes in check ups and more serious things such as X rays and even MRI scans. This hospital is in HCM. Bien Hoa's hospitals are even worse. What I do like about the health care system here is that medication is cheap and readily available. Prescriptions? Forget about them.
Deletehaha vitamin c for a nosebleed? i think you just wasted your money.
DeleteI have a relative in Vietnam and he is a doctor at a hospital in (or near) Can Tho. From what I learned he makes about as much as I make part time in the USA which is about 400 USA dollars if I remember the calculation correctly. His money seems to come from the private practice and pharmacy that he setup at home which was about 20 mins away. Working at the hospital provided the popularity and status that he needed to make a living. His hours at the hospital was about 8 hours every other day. Split shift which means 4 hours in the morning and 4 hours after lunch.
ReplyDeleteThis could be a post about any country in Africa. The photos you posted (change the language on the notices)and yes...it could be any hospital in Africa.
ReplyDeleteThe similarities are uncanny.